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SWR

Member Since: 07 Nov 2013
Location: Warwickshire
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2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Bonatti Grey

EPB help please. Desperate, not your usual.

So after a full day under the D3 I have hit a stopping point.

I will start with where I have got too.
Rubber grommit for hole in cover of EPB missing.

EPB module not attached to the bracket.
Cover removed.
Brass bar jammed all the way across to the right.

Finially un jammed and started the slow process of winding in. Amazing help from Bodsy who answered a bit of a desperate text (and on a Sunday afternoon)

which ended up in several phone calls.
IID tool only had unjam process and accelerometer calibration. So a clam head from Bodsy said have a cup of tea and update it.
IID updated I now have two options in The I/O menu. Relatch and mounting I think

but neither work. So manually wind it back in to latch the two parts.

Test and nothing

Still have no EPB and these lights

I have an EPB fault saying no communication with EPB. The unjam process from iid tool works and I get small movement unwind and back.

Any ideas would be amazing. Is my module FUBARed do to water ingress or have I and Bodsy missed anything.

I have some videos of the iid Unjam process.

https://vimeo.com/145066412 Un-latched

https://vimeo.com/145066413 Mounting and latching not working on iid tool

https://vimeo.com/145066411 re-latched

Thanks in advance.

Simon D3 HSE TDV6 Auto. Bonatti Grey.

Mods:
V8 Brake upgrade (front Only), Full height Luggage guard, Rubber mats all round, RLD spare wheel protector, Terra Firma Steering and Transmission guard, Smoooooth Nappa steering wheel, Clock on dash and Reverse home lights. National Luna split charge system, front and rear light guards, Danhag GSM (on loan), JE stage 1 remap... Zero money

Last edited by SWR on 8th Nov 2015 9:59 pm. Edited 1 time in total

8th Nov 2015 8:56 pm

Sydney

Member Since: 11 Aug 2013
Location: St Neots
Posts: 903

2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Manual Zermatt Silver

Have you checked the power cables for continuity and any visual signs of damage? De-Tango
V8 Brakes
EGRs blanked
Running boards
3 flash indicators and clock on dash
Blingy grille...

8th Nov 2015 9:06 pm

SWR

Member Since: 07 Nov 2013
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 840

Thanks for your reply Sydney.
No visual signs of damage but I haven't checked for continuity. D3 HSE TDV6 Auto. Bonatti Grey.

Mods:
V8 Brake upgrade (front Only), Full height Luggage guard, Rubber mats all round, RLD spare wheel protector, Terra Firma Steering and Transmission guard, Smoooooth Nappa steering wheel, Clock on dash and Reverse home lights. National Luna split charge system, front and rear light guards, Danhag GSM (on loan), JE stage 1 remap... Zero money

8th Nov 2015 9:15 pm

SWR

Member Since: 07 Nov 2013
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 840

As a back up plan. Where is the cheapest place to source and EPB module. Is it worth speaking to MMJ and getting a second hand unit, or Just buy new?

How long should it take to do if i send it to my local indie?

Thanks

Simon D3 HSE TDV6 Auto. Bonatti Grey.

Mods:
V8 Brake upgrade (front Only), Full height Luggage guard, Rubber mats all round, RLD spare wheel protector, Terra Firma Steering and Transmission guard, Smoooooth Nappa steering wheel, Clock on dash and Reverse home lights. National Luna split charge system, front and rear light guards, Danhag GSM (on loan), JE stage 1 remap... Zero money

8th Nov 2015 10:29 pm

Disco_Mikey

Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20732

2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns Blue

Post up a full list of fault codes first

Your EPB module will not have a "lost comms with EPB" fault.

Go into ECU Info, and see if the IID picks up the EPB module, and associated numbers to go with it

Not entirely sure how the unjam procedure works, but the Mount/Latch positions are monitored by the EPB module. Everything seems to be pointing towards a lack of power/earth at the module, but that would also prevent the Unjam procedure from working...

Need to see if the EPB module can communicate with the tool first

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9th Nov 2015 9:48 am

SWR

Member Since: 07 Nov 2013
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 840

Thanks Mikey.

So faults are as follows.

Body Control

B1C57-14 (2F) Passive start ignition relay coil circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground or open
( at 217770 km )
Parking Brake

U2002-01 (FB) Switch general electrical failure - General failure information - general electrical failure
( at 217772 km )
Traffic Message

B1A56-18 (2F) Antenna circuit - General electrical failure - circuit current below threshold

Ecu info.
Airbag

Strategy NNV501455
Hardware 91 YWC500083
Serial UAV5G29A6A

Audio Amplifier

Assembly XQK500105
Strategy NNV501935
Calibration NNS502053
Hardware 91 XQK500192
Serial 0526900470000000

Audio System

Strategy NNV503790
Assembly 12 VUX500330
Hardware 91 NNN500500
Serial 0526375080000000
VIN SALLAAA136A365xxx

Auxilary Heater

Assembly JEC500790
Strategy NNV501282
Assembly 12 NNW502733
Hardware 91 JEC500720
Serial 0000971294

Body Control

Strategy NNV502990
Assembly 12 YQE500300
Hardware 91 NNN500370
Serial QF
VIN SALLAAA136A365xxx

Cell Phone

Strategy NNV501785
Calibration NNS501773
Assembly 12 XVJ500045
Hardware 91 XVJ500170
Serial 052690261

Engine TDV6

Strategy S122079008A0
Calibration NNV503023
Hardware 91 NNN500750
Serial 857265384
VIN SALLAAA136A365xxx

HeadLight

Strategy NNV501542
Assembly 12 NNW502652
Hardware 91 YWC500181
Serial L319/050802

Instrument Pack

Strategy NNV505350
Assembly 12 YAC502440
Hardware 91 YAH500131
Serial 0110754002000000
VIN SALLAAA136A365xxx

Parking Aid

Hardware 91 YWC500313
VIN SALLAAA136A365xxx

Parking Brake

Strategy MI4BAA00457.COF/F085
Assembly 12 1951220101460122100729
Hardware 91 SNF500150
Serial 004995840319
VIN SALLAAA136A365xxx

Steering Angle

Strategy VERSION 06.00
Hardware 91 SRO500110
Serial 1-009DD4
VIN SALLAAA136A365xxx

Suspension

Assembly RQT500170
Strategy NNV504480
Hardware 91 RQT500170
Serial 256401416
VIN SALLAAA136A365xxx

Terrain Response

Strategy NNV502670
Assembly 12 YUD501230WUX
Hardware 91 YUD500730WUX
Serial 05W3300000000

Traffic Message

Transfer Case

Strategy NNV504230
Assembly 12 NNW505090
Hardware 91 IGG500080
Serial PA3T38056991
VIN SALLAAA136A365xxx

Transmission

Assembly TGD500460
Strategy NNV502810
Calibration NNS503900
Assembly 12 NNW506750
Hardware 91 THC500012
Serial 1058815200001412

Vehicle Dynamic

Strategy BB 39766 0701000
Assembly 12 SRB500164
Hardware 91 SRB500164000000000000000
VIN SALLAAA136A365xxx

Ventilation

Strategy NNV501317
Assembly 12 NNW503274
Hardware 91 JFC000687WUX

Sorry was doing the faults off the top of my head last night. So a general electrical failure. Is that as simple as a

switch?

A is once again.

D3 HSE TDV6 Auto. Bonatti Grey.

Mods:
V8 Brake upgrade (front Only), Full height Luggage guard, Rubber mats all round, RLD spare wheel protector, Terra Firma Steering and Transmission guard, Smoooooth Nappa steering wheel, Clock on dash and Reverse home lights. National Luna split charge system, front and rear light guards, Danhag GSM (on loan), JE stage 1 remap... Zero money

9th Nov 2015 10:04 am

Disco_Mikey

Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20732

Quote:
U2002-01 (FB) Switch general electrical failure - General failure information - general electrical failure
( at 217772 km )

EPB switch fault, vaguely covered here: http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic136811.html?highlight=overlay

Same symptoms, same repair (unless you can find a corroded wire, in the N/S/R wheelarch someplace)

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9th Nov 2015 10:09 am

SWR

Member Since: 07 Nov 2013
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 840

Mikey; thank you.

So just to confirm (as I am a bear with very little brain).
Start with changing out the switch in the centre console and then if that doesn't work. Then The loom from the switch to the module?

Or would you do it the other way around?

Thanks and sorry for the dumb questions.

Many thanks

Simon D3 HSE TDV6 Auto. Bonatti Grey.

Mods:
V8 Brake upgrade (front Only), Full height Luggage guard, Rubber mats all round, RLD spare wheel protector, Terra Firma Steering and Transmission guard, Smoooooth Nappa steering wheel, Clock on dash and Reverse home lights. National Luna split charge system, front and rear light guards, Danhag GSM (on loan), JE stage 1 remap... Zero money

9th Nov 2015 12:13 pm

Disco_Mikey

Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20732

From experience, I would do it the other way round

But, a switch is £25 or so, and takes seconds to swap over. Even better if there is a forum member nearby where you can borrow the switch

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9th Nov 2015 12:18 pm

SWR

Member Since: 07 Nov 2013
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 840

Thanks again Mikey.

Were would you suggest to get a new loom from. I note in other threads you say some have poor joints.

Also the part number YNI500400 has differing opinions on whether it will fit. Some say up to vin 5a and other say model year 05-09.

Thanks I will try not to keep bothering you.

D3 HSE TDV6 Auto. Bonatti Grey.

Mods:
V8 Brake upgrade (front Only), Full height Luggage guard, Rubber mats all round, RLD spare wheel protector, Terra Firma Steering and Transmission guard, Smoooooth Nappa steering wheel, Clock on dash and Reverse home lights. National Luna split charge system, front and rear light guards, Danhag GSM (on loan), JE stage 1 remap... Zero money

9th Nov 2015 12:35 pm

Disco_Mikey

Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20732

There is not an off the shelf repair loom for the switch. You will need to make your own loom up

4 wires to go between the switch, and EPB module

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9th Nov 2015 12:51 pm

SWR

Member Since: 07 Nov 2013
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 840

Thanks again mikey.

I will give it a go.

D3 HSE TDV6 Auto. Bonatti Grey.

Mods:
V8 Brake upgrade (front Only), Full height Luggage guard, Rubber mats all round, RLD spare wheel protector, Terra Firma Steering and Transmission guard, Smoooooth Nappa steering wheel, Clock on dash and Reverse home lights. National Luna split charge system, front and rear light guards, Danhag GSM (on loan), JE stage 1 remap... Zero money

9th Nov 2015 2:16 pm

Martin
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2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Buckingham Blue

Simon I have done a loom repair on mine if you need some more pointers. 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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9th Nov 2015 4:26 pm

Martin
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http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/post1544535.html#1544535 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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9th Nov 2015 4:29 pm

SWR

Member Since: 07 Nov 2013
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 840

Thanks Martin.

I was composing a PM in my head to send to you because quite frankly I don't have a clue where to start.

Will have a read of the links and then be in touch.

Thanks all.

Simon. D3 HSE TDV6 Auto. Bonatti Grey.

Mods:
V8 Brake upgrade (front Only), Full height Luggage guard, Rubber mats all round, RLD spare wheel protector, Terra Firma Steering and Transmission guard, Smoooooth Nappa steering wheel, Clock on dash and Reverse home lights. National Luna split charge system, front and rear light guards, Danhag GSM (on loan), JE stage 1 remap... Zero money

9th Nov 2015 7:20 pm