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Have you had a crankshaft fail on the TDV6
Did your crank fail due to known external factors
4%
 4%  [1]
No explanation as to why the crank failed
85%
 85%  [18]
If you are an independent garage/technician- crank failures due to external factors <5
0%
 0%  [0]
If you are an independent garage/technician- crank failures no external factor <5
9%
 9%  [2]
If you are an independent garage/technician- crank failures due to external factors >5
0%
 0%  [0]
If you are an independent garage/technician- crank failures no external factor >5
0%
 0%  [0]
Total Votes: 21

J77
 


Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6263

Scotland 

My D3 got its engine replaced under warranty in 2008 no questions asked. The car just rattled to a halt and out came the yellow taxi. Never got a full explanation as to what caused it, but I assume it was this.
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Post #15895918th Jan 2016 7:39 pm
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anglefire
 


Member Since: 09 Mar 2010
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England 

My engine failed, but nothing to do with crank - mine went due to thrust bearing apparently. Odd for an auto.
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Post #15896028th Jan 2016 7:59 pm
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Member Since: 07 Mar 2015
Location: Dorset UK
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United Kingdom 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

Thanks J77 & angelfire,

Can you please add your failures to the poll... as generic as it was not isolated to the crank..
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Member Since: 07 Mar 2015
Location: Dorset UK
Posts: 234

United Kingdom 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

Just to keep the post active here is a link to the SA 4x4 forum where another engine failure after a recon with tabbed bearings as the "ultimate fix" - crankshaft snapped journal N0.2.

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php?t=240368

6 responses on the poll so far...
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Disco_Mikey
 


Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20757

Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

How many of these failed engines have, or have not had a replacement oil pump?

The new pump gives pressure much, much quicker than an old worn pump.
Of course, this theory is Censored if the rebuilt engine in question had a new pump fitted...
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Post #159051810th Jan 2016 7:23 pm
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itisrich
 


Member Since: 12 Aug 2008
Location: Geneva
Posts: 40

Switzerland 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

hugeviking wrote:
I too am suprised at the lack of responses. I can imagine private owners becoming dissolutioned with the marque, selling the "broken" vehicle on, and leaving the forum, therefore no replies to your poll. However, I would have thought that those in the trade would have had many a tale to tell.

Andi.


I sold mine following a crankshaft failure, landrover customer service were a nightmare and did their level best to sit on their hands, it completely put me off owning one again. A year later they did repair it but did not want to disclose details.
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id@53
 


Member Since: 26 Feb 2008
Location: Dublin
Posts: 40

Ireland 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Sorry about not helping your survey response numbers as I'm just having a nosey.

I did however have Landrover pay 80% towards the cost of replacing my engine after I suffered the Oil Pump Casing Failure last August on my 08MY TDV6 (114K miles).
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Rich84
 


Member Since: 26 Jun 2013
Location: South Australia
Posts: 238

Australia 

I think for this survey to have any sort of weight we also need to have options for:
- my TDV6 engine is still running fine
- my TDV6 engine failed for reasons not mentioned above.

Then, most people who view this thread will be able to answer one of the questions, and you might start to get a clearer idea of the % of failures.

Otherwise you're just playing darts in the dark...
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Wilko_UK
 


Member Since: 04 Jul 2014
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 16

United Kingdom 2013 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Indus SilverDiscovery 4

My crankshaft has split in two. It did the rattle of death and then the old girl just locked up. So that's it! Economically beyond repair. Crying or Very sad
  
Post #166802815th Jun 2016 7:32 pm
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HeavyCivils
 


Member Since: 05 May 2014
Location: Devon
Posts: 50

England 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Siberian SilverDiscovery 3
D3 crankshaft bearing failure

I have just experienced my second engine failure on my D3 58 plate.
The first failure was apparently water in the engine causing a hydraulic lock, apparently the air box drain hole was blocked so the air box filled with water overtime and eventually sucked water into the top of the engine. I find this hard to believe because I had just done 160 miles on a hot sunny day.
LR gave the usual run around of taking to a LR dealer for inspection and diagnosis costing £1,500 with no offer of support so I had the engine replaced by my indie.

I have now done 20k miles on the replaced engine and it has failed again. My indie says he found high resistance on cylinders 2 and 4, and I noticed smoke coming out of the dipstick holder when the engine failed indicating something was getting hot, although nothing on the temp gauge. He suspects bearing failure. I contacted LR and their technician seemed to think the diagnosis was correct but would need to remove the sump and look at the crankshaft at a cost of £500.

I have contacted LR explaining the problem and they loosely indicated that if it's a manufacturing fault they may offer some financial assistance to replace the engine, which my local dealer has quoted me £8,500 to do.

I want to fight this because I can't afford to replace the engine again and I'm looking to be £18,000 out of pocket since buying the car.

Any comments or thoughts how to deal with LR.
  
Post #168026013th Jul 2016 10:37 am
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HeavyCivils
 


Member Since: 05 May 2014
Location: Devon
Posts: 50

England 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Siberian SilverDiscovery 3
Big end fault

Following my last post, Land Rover have undertaken two hours diagnostics and determined my engine has a big end fault but can't say exactly what the fault is without stripping the engine. I suspect a manufacturing fault and I think their technical department also suspect this but are refusing to say and are making any excuse to not provide a replacement engine.

I have been in regular contact with Land Rover direct who are now saying they can't help because:-
1. The engine is out of spec - I assume they are referring to the fact the egr valves have been blanked off
2. The vehicle is out of warranty
3. The vehicle is 6 years old

I thought that a manufacturing fault falls outside of warranty and age of vehicle when it comes to rectifying the fault.

Can anyone give me advise on the above, and has anyone been in a similar situation with Land Rover and how did you resolve it.
  
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sophie5301
 


Member Since: 16 Feb 2017
Location: Taiwan
Posts: 2


facing the same problem here in Taiwan.....
I think maybe we should all write to land rover
  
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