Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6261
ruggedpeak wrote:
A basic spec D4 auto with say cloth seats (don't start about leather again!), satnav, black interior, including say load guard and optional off road bits like sump guard etc would be a surefire seller to ease the D5 transition and offer something practical pending the new Defender.
That's what I have at the moment, SE spec, previously a GS, which were out sold by a mile by HSEs/Luxs
Mines bog standard, only options being xenons and privacy glass, 20" alloys added later
My SE
My GS
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18th Dec 2016 9:37 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13986
Robse wrote:
Moo wrote:
I went shooting today. There were many: Discovery 2, 3 and 4s, various Defenders, a series III, a Landcruiser, RRS2, a G Wagon and a few pickups. I know it wil cope well off road, but with dogs, guns and wellies etc I just can't see the D5 fitting in there and oddly no one else could either, including two chaps that have D5s on order.
The consensus was that LR have moved the brand to the city. No one disputed that they will sell loads, everyone felt that they have undermined the brand and what it stands for with the latest models. Other than off road capability, which is not essential for the town, the question was, what makes it different to the X5, Q7, XC90 and ML?
Anyway, the conversation was a distraction to a lousy day' shooting. Perhaps I should take up golf!
Shooting on a Sunday ?!
Rough shooting simulated clays in preparation for later this week. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
18th Dec 2016 9:42 pm
petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
If people think Landrover are targeting "city types" why are they making it a better off reader than the D4?
Doesn't make sense.Peter
18th Dec 2016 9:55 pm
Sonny smith
Member Since: 30 Nov 2016
Location: Solihull
Posts: 52
I must be honest,looking at the new discovery 5 it does remind me of an in town vehicle perfect for the lady's with it smooth curved lines and soft trim ,lol were the discovery s up till then have that bulk square look ,looks as if it could take a hedge or two on if you no my meaning and that's why my wife likes it , u could imagine it pulling the disco 5 out when it gets stuck in its own splender ,let's be honest the brand has two wheel drives now and the strong pedigree of the past is being deluted for speed and it's overwhelming electronic extras all the while,its bad enough with the disco 3/4 software property's ! Land Rover should watch out because if they continue down this route they could lose the top spot for a good off roader, so my position is ,I'll keep the lr4 amen ! and possibly buy Lr5 when it's had a few years reviews by Joe public and that awful looking back end might grow on me ? But the car I'll be stuck with,lol,for all u slow chaps ! That is a forward to the future joke
18th Dec 2016 10:13 pm
petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
Good points Sonny Smith & I tend to agree, my D4 especially with the 18" wheels will go anywhere & I love it.
But if I don't trade it now I'm not sure I could afford a new Landrover from scratch in the future, my aim is to get the new Defender (hopefully a SVO) in 4/5 years as a long term "retirement" vehicle, possibly also a small electric/ hydrogen car for short trips.Peter
18th Dec 2016 10:24 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6261
2wd was introduced to meet emission targets. Only 2wd model available at the moment is Evoque, the DS e-capability has 4wd but meets the 129g/km (not sure of exact figures) emission target.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
18th Dec 2016 11:08 pm
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
petersw wrote:
Good points Sonny Smith & I tend to agree, my D4 especially with the 18" wheels will go anywhere & I love it.
But if I don't trade it now I'm not sure I could afford a new Landrover from scratch in the future, my aim is to get the new Defender (hopefully a SVO) in 4/5 years as a long term "retirement" vehicle, possibly also a small electric/ hydrogen car for short trips.
Just pimp the D4 with extra mods and buy an i3. You'll save tens of thousands of pounds and lose not a jot of functionality (if anything you'll retain some you'll lose)
Just a thought MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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18th Dec 2016 11:25 pm
jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 478
Which ones will he lose?
19th Dec 2016 9:28 am
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
Oh keep up will you!
Split tailgate (the new flap doesn't give as much seating space nor allows use as a standing platform unlike previous)
Comfortable 3 seats in Row 2
Flat load space
More square load space facilitating easier loading
Wide range of mods and accessories (D5 will catch up but will take 18 months I'd imagine)
Lots of cash retained
And not being treated like a yummy mummy of course
All that said I'm sure it'll be a great car but I do wish people would just say "I'm buying it because it's shiny" and admit it, as it gives nothing the outgoing D4 has right now MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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19th Dec 2016 10:18 am
jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 478
Heavy weekend!!
19th Dec 2016 10:25 am
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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TransK9 B24
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19th Dec 2016 10:36 am
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
Well I would be happy to use one shooting, we had a play with a Bentley a few weeks ago, that is too bling to throw dogs and guns in but it did cope fine but we were in Surrey DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
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19th Dec 2016 10:38 am
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6261
It does have a flat loadspace.
Why do we need to explain why we're buying one?
But for anyone who wants to know, my current one is on 2 year PCP so due next year, with an offer of a strong trade in on my current one and the slight chance to beat the new VED rules I'll change early. Looked at other cars including the XC90 but though more expensive I've chosen to stick with Discovery which will probably be my last LR.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
19th Dec 2016 10:47 am
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
Oh no one needs to explain anything
We all waste our money however we individually want to
I'm just glad I've not seen one in the flesh yet as I'm as much as sucker for something shiny as the rest of you MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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19th Dec 2016 11:22 am
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
Pelyma wrote:
Well I would be happy to use one shooting, we had a play with a Bentley a few weeks ago, that is too bling to throw dogs and guns in but it did cope fine but we were in Surrey
Saw my first Bentyaga yesterday. Couldn't decide on the styling, good to see something trying to be different with bold coachlines but seemed small in the boot department from the outside.
What did you think of it actually getting in one and experiencing it?MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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