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Harry365
Member Since: 25 Aug 2018
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 373
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Lots of play in steering - Leaking. Options? |
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Just failed MOT on steering play at column (major defect) and nearside rod ball joint (minor).
Was hoping ball joint would solve play as it was very bad (naughty me for ignoring so long).
Replacing rod got rid of lets say half of the play but its still pretty bad, bad enough to fail.
I removed the offside gaiter and was visited with a face-full of steering fluid... fun.
Clearly the the seal has failed, (props to the gaiter for holding it all in). Fluid levels are fine and haven't been touched for a long time. Looks a bit dirty, could even replacing the fluid solve a lot of issues here?
I'm thinking its time for a reconditioned rack however,
Can anything be done with the adjusting nut (opposite side to where the column enters the rack) to alleviate the play? Even if its only a temp fix. Just need to get through MOT at this point.
Note, the lower UJ is fine. It was replaced not that long ago and the play begins inside the rack itself with a banging.
Thanks!
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13th Apr 2021 9:52 pm |
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Nc1989
Member Since: 28 Apr 2015
Location: Doncaster
Posts: 203
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I adjusted some play out of my rack with the big nut you talk about. I only had a slight knock on big bumps and no leaks though, but worth a try for free. Go very careful as a tiny adjustment can go a long way. Very easy to over tighten and cause it not to self centre properly which causes some interesting handling effects at speed.
I got an assistant to rock the steering back and forth with engine off and adjusted the nut carefully just until the knocking stopped.
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14th Apr 2021 9:12 pm |
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Harry365
Member Since: 25 Aug 2018
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 373
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Thanks.
I had a go and I'd say reduced the knocking by 50% but it's still knocking. Play is down to less than 10mm so should pass my retest tomorrow. Regardless, gonna swap the rack out. They're not that badly prices considering.
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14th Apr 2021 10:16 pm |
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Admirable
Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Fife
Posts: 1012
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Re: Lots of play in steering - Leaking. Options? |
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Harry365 wrote:
Note, the lower UJ is fine. It was replaced not that long ago and the play begins inside the rack itself with a banging.
Was this replaced with a genuine item? I'd be removing that and checking it before fitting a rack.
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15th Apr 2021 7:05 am |
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Scwede
Member Since: 31 Jul 2014
Location: Jönköping, Sweden
Posts: 301
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As admirable says - worth checking your lower column again, a small amount of play is massively amplified at the steering wheel:
https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/tale-afterm...93934.html
A much cheaper fix if it's this. 2012 Discovery 4 HSE Sumatra Black
2008 Discovery 3 HSE, Java Black
2010 Discovery 4 HSE, Stornoway Grey
2005 Discovery 3 HSE, Buckingham Blue
1987 Defender 90, some sort of grey
1983 Series 3 SWB, Ex Coastguard, Trafalgar Blue
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15th Apr 2021 9:01 am |
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Harry365
Member Since: 25 Aug 2018
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 373
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I'll pull the column and inspect it just to be sure but I'm fairly certain it's fine.
With the wheels on the ground, the pinion shaft moves with the slightest bit of movement from the steering wheel with the banging coming from the rack itself. With the wheels off the ground, rocking them produces banging within the rack. Basically "feels" like the pinion or rack have ruined teeth..
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15th Apr 2021 12:01 pm |
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Brookert
Member Since: 03 Apr 2020
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 52
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I had a look at my steering rack last weekend. The preload adjustment had about 2 full turns clockwise of free movement, so the pinion was probably very loose.
It has really sorted out the play in the steering.
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7th May 2021 8:39 pm |
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