In a conversation yesterday, the subject was Biden making the US (and 'The West' for that matter) looking weak. The question was asked "what would/could he do if China turned up at Ascension Island and said they were having it?"
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26th Aug 2021 7:40 am
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Better example would be Diego Garcia
Ascension Island is bojo’s problem.
26th Aug 2021 9:15 am
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Isn’t Diego Garcia also bojo’s problem, assuming the Americans stay true to form and jump in their C-17s at the first sight of a Chinese warship.
26th Aug 2021 9:26 am
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Technically, yes, but I was wagering that since the lease is until 2036 the Americans wouldn’t live down losing it.
26th Aug 2021 9:31 am
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It’ll be another place Biden has to get a minion to Google and see where it is!
26th Aug 2021 9:33 am
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It's interesting to see the US and UK doing their "freedom of navigation" stuff in the South China Sea, and decrying Chinese moves in the area. There we are with our islands taken from their native inhabitants saying that the Chinese are being naughty in their actions. Politicians don't really understand irony, do they?Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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26th Aug 2021 9:41 am
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DSL wrote:
It’ll be another place Biden has to get a minion to Google and see where it is!
Any Yank, not just Biden. They don't "do" world geography. There is "The USA" and "everywhere that isn't the USA and it's scary and we don't understand it". Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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26th Aug 2021 9:44 am
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At least the US/UK aren’t claiming the whole Indian Ocean as the Chinese are for the South China Sea.
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26th Aug 2021 9:48 am
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DSL wrote:
Isn’t Diego Garcia also bojo’s problem,
Yes, and there is increasing international pressure to hand it back to the natives. Or rather, Mauritius wants it. I doubt they'll let the Chagos people go back there if they eventually get control of it.
The UK's attitude back in the day is quite cringe-inducing now:
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26th Aug 2021 9:49 am
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DSL wrote:
At least the US/UK aren’t claiming the whole Indian Ocean as the Chinese are for the South China Sea.
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True enough. If the Indian Ocean was shallow enough and full of yummy exploitable minerals, I bet they would be. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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26th Aug 2021 9:50 am
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Can’t find the link but read today that the baby girl born in the US C-17 on tarmac at Ramstein is being named Reach after the aircraft’s callsign. Good job she wasn’t born a day or so earlier so earlier on the flight from Kabul to UAE. Moose doesn’t have the same ring.
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26th Aug 2021 10:23 am
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Will the baby born on the US aircraft be a US citizen? Is a US military aircraft considered to be US territory?Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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26th Aug 2021 10:43 am
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I’d have thought so, reinforced by it was on the deck on a US military base.
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