Member Since: 19 May 2008
Location: Brough
Posts: 214
Driver seat dropping whilst driving
Hi, I have a 07 XS, My drivers seat keeps going down whilst driving, it has been into my local dealer Stratstone Hull, they have chocked the seat, replaced the seat base and it is still dropping, i've been in touch with LRCS and i m still waiting to see what they are going to do, they tell me that this is my fault as i am catching the handle when getting in and out,i have pointed out that when driving down the motorway i find it difficult to get out and get back in at 70 mph. Has anyone else had this problem? if so is it fixed?and what did they do!
10th Mar 2009 8:58 pm
JPW
Member Since: 19 Mar 2007
Location: Essex
Posts: 217
Hi,
This is a common problem with a Technical Bulletin issued and loads of posts on this site.
Some people have had it fixed under warranty but I think others have had difficulties getting dealers to accept that it's a problem (and not caused by the handle being pressed when getting in and out).
I think the standard test is to leave the car at the dealers overnight with a weight on the seat and a wedge under the handle.
I hope this helps
10th Mar 2009 9:17 pm
748scratcher
Member Since: 19 May 2008
Location: Brough
Posts: 214
Hi, Had this done all ready, that's when they chocked it with a block of wood! They then replaced the seat base for a modifyed one, which is worse, Dealer has told me that there is a hybrid electric seat that can be fitted BUT LRCS denies this,and says that it is impossible for the seat to drop, just wondered if this seat exists, i have no reason to question what Stratstone says as i've had fantastic service from them over the last 4 years of owning Land Rovers, Just wondered if anyone had the same problem or if they have had this 'HYBRID' seat fitted
10th Mar 2009 9:25 pm
MARKW
Member Since: 29 Aug 2008
Location: SW
Posts: 2390
Mine is booked in for this very problem. Going to Yeovil. Spoke to them today about it. But they have to put a weight on it and see what sags. I'm assuming that the weight will be representative of a fully grown male and not a super model.
It's not going in till the 18th but will keep you informedHONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE
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10th Mar 2009 10:14 pm
748scratcher
Member Since: 19 May 2008
Location: Brough
Posts: 214
Thanks Mark,
Mine's booked in on the 24th for a service, lets see what they say to you, if they fix yours i can tell them what to do!
Mines booked in for a replacement "seat base" on monday as I had the same problem.
Theirs first line, was "your're moving the Lever when you get out", next was "we'll try the block of wood", then they had it in, agreed to replce the seat base under warranty (which was on back order)
Not sure which seat base, I assume its a replacement manual one.
Does anyone know if its just the mechanism they replace or the whole cushion assembly ??
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11th Mar 2009 1:40 pm
PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 4317
748scratcher wrote:
replaced the seat base and it is still dropping
Myself and several other guys in Spain have also had the seat replaced and most have found that the new seat lowers itself even faster than the original one
The following info is from the new Spanish D3 forum (hope it's ok to link to the below image )
748scratcher wrote:
i have pointed out that when driving down the motorway i find it difficult to get out and get back in at 70 mph.
748scratcher wrote:
Dealer has told me that there is a hybrid electric seat that can be fitted BUT LRCS denies this
.......
Just wondered if anyone had the same problem or if they have had this 'HYBRID' seat fitted
It exists....just not officially. (Mine is due to go in for some 'special work' next week, but I already know what it involves
As far as we can make out, the TSB only covers replacing like-for-like the original seat base and assumes that the problem will go away.
There is a secret hybrid seat base (reference HAK500210SMS in Alpaca), but you cannot order it or buy it - it seems to be a special-build item from LR. The dealer must file an EPQR report asking LR for a solution (having already carried out the TSB unsuccessfully) and the new answer is to fit the hybrid base.
If you add a few coins or washers to the 2 spring assemblies under the seat (they just unclip with the seat at full height) it will sort the problem out. I posted some pics on one of the seat dropping threads a while back. The coins compress the spring enough to give them enough clout, which they clearly don't have as standard.Previously:
2005 D3 2.7 TDV6 S
1984 90 2.25 Petrol CSW
1992 90 200TDi Hard Top
1995 Discovery ES 300TDi
2003 90 TD5 Truck Cab
I had my seat base replaced about a year ago as it was obviously dropping whilst driving, requiring several 'pump-ups' during a journey.
Since having the new seat base it no longer does this but I still have to pump it after getting in occasionally due to sitting on the lever!
It is obvious that I have sat on the lever as, due to the mechanism being stiffer, the lever no longer springs back up on it's own so the evidence was there!
11th Mar 2009 5:43 pm
Grandad
Member Since: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 57
I also have this problem(sagging seat )investigated at the first service on my XS last week.They (Pillings Welwyn)said that the seat base need replacing ,However at the moment they are on back order and will call when the replacment comes in estimate 2-3 weeks .So there must be a problem we can't all be wrong.Or can we
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11th Mar 2009 6:08 pm
748scratcher
Member Since: 19 May 2008
Location: Brough
Posts: 214
I.ve had a call from LRCS today, Adam @ LRCS as told me that the HYBRID seat exists, BUT they won't fit it as it changes the spec of the car, making the warranty void!!! they are putting another seat base in on the 24th, this will be the second ! not holding much hope of a fix, last one was worse than the factory fitted one!
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