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VIDEO Front AND Rear control arm bushes
I had the uprated ball joints installed by my dealer last month. I still have the same knock noise that you can feel in the frame of the D3 if you apply the brakes hard while traveling at very low speed. I decided to try and capture video to see if there was a problem with the ball joints, instead it looks to me that the rear bushings on the lower control arms are worn. Is this much movement normal? My '05 D3 HSE has 25,000 miles total.
Apologies for the upside down and angled videos, but the mount I'm using with the mino flip player won't allow for vertical placements every time......
videos are about 1 minute each
I made the videos with these:
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22nd Jun 2009 1:46 am
grzesiul
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cool videos very cool must admit... have u experienced any knocking or vibrations before realizing those were fooked???
would you think there is any way of judging their wear without camera?
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22nd Jun 2009 1:55 am
jjvd21
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Thanks. Yes, I've had numerous parts replaced on the front end - all with the pursuit of eliminating knock. I've had the uprated ball joints replaced (as mentioned), steering rack, other front bushes (supposedly). When the new uprated ball joints failed to totally remove the front knock when braking hard at low speed, I decided I needed to try and capture what was going on underneath to solve the issue myself. I'm sure the design of these bushes allows for some movement, but I'm looking to the forum members (er, experts) to chime in and confim prior to taking my D3 back to the dealer. Thanks.16 D4 Landmark
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22nd Jun 2009 2:29 am
Disco_Mikey
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Those bushes are well and truly
Seen the same thing only last week. Should have it back at some point this week, and will try and take pictures of them My D3 Build Thread
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great videos that bush if deffo knackered and that's some knock I hope this is all warranty work.Arctic Frost Discovery 3 TDV6 SE, Active Rear Diff, Adaptive Head Lights, Tow Pack, Ebony Leather, Roof Rails, Mantec Guard. Tasmod Stainless Sill plates. Grabber AT's. Home made mud flaps. Side Steps back on until the next time.
22nd Jun 2009 7:08 am
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22nd Jun 2009 7:14 am
Roel
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Great video but maybe you get less noise if you keep the wheels on the ground and not the roof
Clearly the bushes are gone. Show them to the dealer and try to get the money back from the previous "repairs". Or get a good discount on this repair.Roel
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22nd Jun 2009 7:17 am
PaulP
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Yep - the rear bushes are completely f d.....
I think you could just go to the dealer and get them to look at your videos on Youtube - there should be no discussion after seeing them 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE AutoBuckingham Blue 2007 Golf GT DSG
22nd Jun 2009 7:56 am
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The only discussion is probably they want proof that the Youtube video is really your car. Roel
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22nd Jun 2009 7:58 am
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Great clips it shows exactly what's going on.
It would be good to get a clip of a new vehicle in the same situation as a comparison.
22nd Jun 2009 10:37 am
jjvd21
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Thanks for the comments. I'm going to email the youtube clips to my service advisor and wait for their response. It was pretty easy capturing the videos, I used the 2 front oval openings on the front bash plate (stock) to clamp into. From there its just a matter of positioning the recorder to capture the proper part or area. Using a set up like this could produce some great footage in off road adventures as well!16 D4 Landmark
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22nd Jun 2009 2:13 pm
grzesiul
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m8 u should start making underbody view camera sets for offroad geeks like us lol i some sort of protective casing just in case hihi
see the orders flying your way
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22nd Jun 2009 2:46 pm
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OMG, can't believe that after 25K, wonder when we'll be getting polybush sets available???
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22nd Jun 2009 3:59 pm
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LR are aware of the issue and have completely re-designed the loer controll arm to take different bushes and ball joints.“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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23rd Jun 2009 1:16 am
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caverD3 wrote:
LR are aware of the issue and have completely re-designed the loer controll arm to take different bushes and ball joints.
AFAIK, the bushes and arms are the same, just the ball joints are different...My D3 Build Thread
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