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big fella
 


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Engine system fault

Can any of you guys give me your opinion on the following.

Saturday had a 60k service on my D3, all the work was completed except the fuel filter as the one they had was apparently defective. This service was completed by a local Land Rover specialist that does have a good name around the north east.

Driving home from work today (the vehicle has done 50 miles since service) and a text 'engine system fault' appears on the dashboard display. There is no engine management light etc illuminated. Returned to the garage and the foreman put it straight on the diagnostic machine. The fault showed that the fuel temperature had been recorded at -43 degrees and therefore the fault had shown up. He reset the fault and told me that it may be a hic-up in the system alternatively some form of thermostat on the fuel system, however after he reset the system the fault did not register again. He suggested that I run it and see if the fault registered again. Five miles trouble free and then the fault message appeared again. The car is running fine, no probs accelerating etc.

I know its cold 'Up North' but -43 any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

Big Fella
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Post #77430714th Mar 2011 7:50 pm
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So it doesn't go into limp home mode? Question Did the ESF message come up after putting foot down to overtake, say?
   
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I had the same message twice the other day with accompanying loss of power after giving it a booting. It cleared both times after turning off the ignition. I think I know what DSL is getting at; CFT!
Mine is going in to a local indie tomorrow to read any fault codes. Its a 2005 manual with 39K on the clock, EGR's currently intact (this may change shortly) and FSH.
I'm hoping its something simple and not the unspeakable.
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CFT will give a turbo overboost error, you needs the tea leafs (codes) read. I hope not but there is a lot of it about. Big Cry
   
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DSL, I know, fingers (and everything else) crossed.
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Warranty??
   
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What do you think?
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Crying or Very sad
   
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Yup.
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Getting worried.

DSL no it did not occur after putting my foot down, if anything quite the opposite, whilst in slow moving traffic.

CFT ? sorry for my ignorance, is it something to do with the turbo? Big Cry I hope and pray not.

Warranty, its a '57'reg with 30,000 on so just out of warranty.
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CFT = Club Fooked Turbo, from when the site was going through a bit of a club everything mood. Thumbs Up

Afraid I might have been a founding member. Whistle

Don't know why it would happen in slow traffic, always happened to me under added throttle like overtaking. Sad
   
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Why look for complicated answers when the simple may be the case?

The chances are that it is either a temperature sensor or its associated wiring. -43 is probably the default open circuit reading.

Best Wishes,
Peter
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Error code ??

Sounds like it could be the fuel temperature sensor Rolling Eyes

Steve
  
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Could also be the fuel temp sensor was accidently unplugged when the oil filter was removed.
  
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Thanks people.

Had my vehicle back into the garage today and after several hours exploration, the conclusion that was reached was that on changing a filter they had to disconnect an electrical plug, this plug was re connected however one of the wires had become dislodged and as such although appearing connected wasn't. As Bushwanderer suggested shown was the open circuit default of -43. They could have told me anything as an explanation, but instead of being presented with a bill I received an apology for my inconvenience which has restored my faith in human nature.

So as long as there is no recurrence I am Very Happy instead of Sad

Thanks again

Big Fella.
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