pom
Member Since: 10 Feb 2008
Location: Worcestershire
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Im looking at commercial d4 as well but will definitely putting standard 2nd and 3rd row seats back in to bring it back to a standard d4.
Have you considered the same rather than those crappy aftermarket bench seat jobbies ?
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mrandmrsh
Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
Location: Holmfirth
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I have (and still am) but am a bit concerned about VAT man should he find out.
Had a long chat with another list member here who said the same.
Have you dont it already - how easy to put the LR seats (and belts etc) back in? I thought they made it hard by knackering the mounting points?
Cheers
Craig 2012 Defender 110 XS Utility 2.2
2012 D4 Commercial 255 8-speed, Active diff, lots of extras on order, comes Sept - ORDER CANCELLED (isn't divorce expensive....?)
2008/08 D3 HSE G4 - part exchanged for the 110
1987 110 CSW with 200 Tdi (now gone)
2007/57 D3 TDV6 HSE - NOW GONE owned 1/oct/08 to 31/dec/09
2007 Seat Altea Freetrack4 170 tdi (wife's car, wife now gone!)
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| 6th Jun 2011 5:43 pm |
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pom
Member Since: 10 Feb 2008
Location: Worcestershire
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Wouldn't be overly concerned with vat man scare stories, just talk to your accountant it isn't an issue really.
As for fitting standard kit, I was told by Lakeland who were the sole d3 commercial suppliers until LR made them there self that they had to weld over seat and belt mounting points. So worst case they will have to be re-tapped, no biggies for a grease monkey though. Keep eye out on the bay for a breaking one so you can nab both rows of seats and all the trim.
Worth doing though as it's a massive saving.
Pom
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| 6th Jun 2011 10:59 pm |
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mrandmrsh
Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
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Cheers Pom, will have a look at this.
Craig 2012 Defender 110 XS Utility 2.2
2012 D4 Commercial 255 8-speed, Active diff, lots of extras on order, comes Sept - ORDER CANCELLED (isn't divorce expensive....?)
2008/08 D3 HSE G4 - part exchanged for the 110
1987 110 CSW with 200 Tdi (now gone)
2007/57 D3 TDV6 HSE - NOW GONE owned 1/oct/08 to 31/dec/09
2007 Seat Altea Freetrack4 170 tdi (wife's car, wife now gone!)
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| 8th Jun 2011 11:36 am |
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highbayrack
Member Since: 09 Jul 2008
Location: Northamptonshire
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Mine arrives at the dealer on Friday  On a mission to find the perfect Pork Pie. Just Found it (I think)..(Yes I have)
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| 8th Jun 2011 1:07 pm |
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wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
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Gonna be a long weekend then  G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
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| 8th Jun 2011 1:29 pm |
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mrandmrsh
Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
Location: Holmfirth
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highbayrack wrote:Mine arrives at the dealer on Friday
I have got months to wait yet. 
Chased dealer who said order book is not yet open for D4 but is expected ASAP and I am in the first allocation when they get it.
Craig 2012 Defender 110 XS Utility 2.2
2012 D4 Commercial 255 8-speed, Active diff, lots of extras on order, comes Sept - ORDER CANCELLED (isn't divorce expensive....?)
2008/08 D3 HSE G4 - part exchanged for the 110
1987 110 CSW with 200 Tdi (now gone)
2007/57 D3 TDV6 HSE - NOW GONE owned 1/oct/08 to 31/dec/09
2007 Seat Altea Freetrack4 170 tdi (wife's car, wife now gone!)
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| 8th Jun 2011 1:58 pm |
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highbayrack
Member Since: 09 Jul 2008
Location: Northamptonshire
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Might just have to find an excuse to sneak over to the dealer on Saturday morning for a crafty look 8) On a mission to find the perfect Pork Pie. Just Found it (I think)..(Yes I have)
Official product sponsor for "Bloodhound SSC" 1000+ mph world land speed record
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| 8th Jun 2011 2:08 pm |
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mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
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Havent the new rear seat mounts on the d4 commercial got the none removable bolts i was hearing to make it incredibly difficult to fit the seats...
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| 8th Jun 2011 11:45 pm |
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snailcove
Member Since: 21 Nov 2010
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i'm shure my local dealer told me there was a 5% for NFU discount on the Discovery last year 
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| 9th Jun 2011 5:51 am |
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pom
Member Since: 10 Feb 2008
Location: Worcestershire
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mse wrote:Havent the new rear seat mounts on the d4 commercial got the none removable bolts i was hearing to make it incredibly difficult to fit the seats...
Should have, as i said earlier will have to be re-tapped. Not a biggie.
Pom
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| 9th Jun 2011 7:36 am |
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Ent
Member Since: 12 Oct 2007
Location: In the cack
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When you take the commercial floor out you will have a very substantial cargo barrier to remove and the metal frame that supports the floor. This lot is held in with security bolts that have a special "one way" head on them, they are sort of chamfered in such a way that the tool they use to screw them in won't be able to take them out. Some will come out with a pair of footprints but others will have been had a generous application of loctite, to remove these I drilled a 6mm hole in the head and used a drift to tap it round. The only re-tapping that needs doing is for where the retaining mechanism for the bases of seats 6/7 bolt to. The first time I did it took quite sometime but after intried the drilling method it took about two hours to removethe commercial kit with another 2 hours to fit the standard seats and seat belts. They did not weld over any of the fixing points. Club Exped trailer
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| 9th Jun 2011 8:11 am |
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mrandmrsh
Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
Location: Holmfirth
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snailcove wrote:i'm shure my local dealer told me there was a 5% for NFU discount on the Discovery last year
The Ts and Cs (from here http://www.nfuonline.com/landrover/ then click the related docs) say
Quote:The additional support from Land Rover is over and above that negotiated by members with their supplying dealer. The additional support from Land Rover is detailed below:
- Defender all base derivatives – 5%
- Discovery Commercial - 3%
- Discovery XS – 4%
- Discovery HSE – 5%
- Freelander GS – 3%
- Freelander XS – 4%
- Freelander HSE – 5%
- Freelander S – 0%
The above support is off the list price excluding VAT.
Regards
C 2012 Defender 110 XS Utility 2.2
2012 D4 Commercial 255 8-speed, Active diff, lots of extras on order, comes Sept - ORDER CANCELLED (isn't divorce expensive....?)
2008/08 D3 HSE G4 - part exchanged for the 110
1987 110 CSW with 200 Tdi (now gone)
2007/57 D3 TDV6 HSE - NOW GONE owned 1/oct/08 to 31/dec/09
2007 Seat Altea Freetrack4 170 tdi (wife's car, wife now gone!)
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| 9th Jun 2011 8:35 am |
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highbayrack
Member Since: 09 Jul 2008
Location: Northamptonshire
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Or you could drill the 6mm holes like ENT said and get yourself a set of these from Halfords http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/...yId_165572 for £12.99  On a mission to find the perfect Pork Pie. Just Found it (I think)..(Yes I have)
Official product sponsor for "Bloodhound SSC" 1000+ mph world land speed record
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| 9th Jun 2011 8:52 am |
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Ent
Member Since: 12 Oct 2007
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Chris
The security bolts are made out of out of a pretty hard steel so tge smaller the hole you need to drill the better. Club Exped trailer
Club Timed Climate
Club Flappy paddle steering wheel
Club 300bhp
Club Prospeed test pilot/lab rat
Club National Luna Stella conditioner
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