kevofcov
Member Since: 06 Nov 2007
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Hi
can anybody save me much head scatching.
I am going to fit extra cabin heating to my hse. The length of time it takes the engine to warm up and provide heat to the cabin is plain wrong in a car costing this much. (FBH is fine) Swmbo is 8mins from work and is cold both ways. Only the heated seats providing heat.
I intend the extra heat soarce to be switched by relay. The relay is to be switched by the heated seats as this is the only time extra heat is required.
I am clear on the nature of my extra heat soarce but would appreciate details of wiring layout for the heated seat element - where is an easy place to take a drive supply for the relay - seats? heated seat module?
cheers
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DG
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kevofcov wrote:
The length of time it takes the engine to warm up and provide heat to the cabin is plain wrong in a car costing this much. (
Eh  WTF  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 26th Dec 2007 2:45 pm |
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Jimbob Squarepants
Member Since: 27 Oct 2007
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I've owned quite a long list of different cars (BMW, Merc, Volvo, Peugeot  , Porsche) and the D3 gets warmer much quicker than any of my previous cars.
I've got to agree with DG here.
Sorry, can't help with the tecnical question! Too much intellectual firepower can damage your common sense.
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| 26th Dec 2007 3:59 pm |
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countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
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Why not add the pre heating function using the webasto clock, then you cabin will be warm in seconds when you get in.
A 8 minute trip isn't going do the engine much good either as it can hardly get warm or charge the battery. I doubt any car is warm within 8 minutes.
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| 26th Dec 2007 5:19 pm |
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craig
Member Since: 08 Aug 2006
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countrywide wrote:A 8 minute trip isn't going do the engine much good either as it can hardly get warm or charge the battery. I doubt any car is warm within 8 minutes.
8 mins WTF 
8 mins aint enough time to get the engine warm and provide enough heat. Just a suggestion but why not get you SWMBO to walk to work  save all the wasted diesel and engine wear and might do her some good 
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| 26th Dec 2007 5:31 pm |
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Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
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How about starting it 10 mins before you leave (works for me)
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| 26th Dec 2007 7:14 pm |
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MrH
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Hi kevofcov,
As the guys above have said, it's unlikely you'll find any car that would heat up within a trip lasting only 8 minutes.
If you need to get the temperature up in time for setting off, rather than trying to run extra heating off the Heated Seats circuits, look at this thread: http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic15454.html
it's about adding the timer option to the FBH along with the remote control bits, then you can zap the remote when you get up and within 30-40 minutes the car is up to full temperature and that includes the heaters blowing warm/hot air.
Works a treat on mine. LRs are a fond memory, apart from the maintenance.
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| 26th Dec 2007 8:49 pm |
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kevofcov
Member Since: 06 Nov 2007
Location: Other end of M69
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I can only speak as I find and have driven her to work in -1. It is not as good as our last car, a Galaxy petrol. The Galaxy didn't have leather so this may be an factor. The blown air does start to warm as I leave her work place but is to late.
Without the heated seats there would be no heating of the interior. I have asked to measure the temperature of her rear as she she exits the car but she said no.
The quicker I can get her hot the better......
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| 26th Dec 2007 10:31 pm |
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Gareth
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Kev, I think the FBH remote operation modification is for you
1. Its been done.
2. Its proven to work
3. When you make her a cup of tea in the morning, you can press a button that will really warm her up! Its exactly what you want 8)
Even if you don't fancy tackling the job yourself, I am sure there are plenty of people here who would do the work in exchange for beer tokens.
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| 26th Dec 2007 10:41 pm |
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WOODY179
Member Since: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Chesterfield
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I had a problem a few months ago with the heater not working properly - dealer did a software download to fix the problem and they also did TSB LA412-003 (heat shield around the cabin temperature sensor).
Since the software upgrade and the TSB being done the heating has been fine. 1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
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| 26th Dec 2007 10:47 pm |
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kevofcov
Member Since: 06 Nov 2007
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Gareth
just read the FBH mod - a brilliant post.
My idea is a less effort and just heats the cab.
If it works i'll post it once properly tested.
It takes alot to impress Doris but I will try.
Are wire layout diagrams available for the D3, this won't be the last time I will appreciate a layout i'm sure.
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| 26th Dec 2007 11:27 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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Just buy her a decent coat and a pair of nice leather gloves... a hat too maybe
By the time I'm out of town (all of two miles) the air is starting to come in warm from the vents and the heated seat is plenty hot enough on my backside and back.
Again, agree with the others. D3 warms up faster in cold weather than any previous vehicle I've owned.
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| 26th Dec 2007 11:40 pm |
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kevofcov
Member Since: 06 Nov 2007
Location: Other end of M69
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Simon
I'm always suggesting new leather attire but she blanks me...........
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| 26th Dec 2007 11:44 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
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kevofcov wrote:Simon
I'm always suggesting new leather attire but she blanks me...........
mmm leather is very cold at -1 and rubber* gets a tad brittle too 
*a forum member told me this. I have of course no personal experience of wearing any kind of rubber suit.
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| 26th Dec 2007 11:52 pm |
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philhunt
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
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My journey to work in Central London is 20 miles from home and takes at least an hour an a half. It's usually heavy traffic for most of the journey apart from about 6 miles on the A13 if I'm lucky. My FBH isn't working at the moment (booked in to main stealer tomorrow) but even on recent mornings when it's been 5C or more, it does seem to take a long time before I get any real warmth out of the heater even with the climate control turned up to maximum (even then I wouldn't describe the output as hot). I've even fiddled around with trying the economy and recirculation buttons to improve things.
My Discovery 300tdi on the other hand has a brilliant heater and I rarely run it with the blower on more than the 1st of 4 settings. When I ran my MG ZT, I would be hot in shirt sleeves with the window open with the climate control set to 20C
I've read elsewhere on other posts of complaints about the efficiency of the D3 heating / climate control system and yet others indicate (as above) that the D3 has the best system of all the motors they've ever owned. I'm therefore a bit confused and wonder if what I'm experiencing is something I should raise with my local stealer? 
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| 26th Dec 2007 11:55 pm |
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