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pohm
 


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replacement / fix for knocking harmonic balance weights?

Well my 06 tdv6 is just about to clock over 270,000ks and just recently a knocking in the rear is more audible.

FINALLY sussed out what it is from... looks like the bush in the left hand weight has perished and the weight dropped a couple of mm enabling it to knock the chasis.

Has anyone pulled one of the out and replaced the bush? If so how?

Thanks....
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Post #93109013th May 2012 11:34 am
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Bob.
 


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Are you sure it is a collapsed bush? This was one on my RRS 3 years ago at 20k miles and that was sagging then.

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I think that to remove the harmonic damper to rebush it requires the rear of the body to be jacked up to remove the casting as it goes right over the chassis rail. (same procedure as replacing rear anti roll bar)



Hope the knock is something else.
  
Post #93124113th May 2012 9:37 pm
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pohm
 


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Unfortunately Bob I can confirm it is the weight, the top of which hits the rear cross member as it swing forward.

Looks like an ugly jog to rectify properly (the pics gave me a better insight Sad ).... me dost wonder if some form of damper aka rubber can be used as a barrier.

It'll still hit but not with that horrible metallic thud unless I put it on the stop limiting the weights swing.

Going to have a closer look.
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Post #93131114th May 2012 4:29 am
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Bob.
 


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Hope the simple "rubber pad in the way stops the clonking" technique works. Seem to remember they weigh 15kg each so there is a fair bit of energy in them when they move.

Good luck.
  
Post #93145614th May 2012 4:08 pm
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Russell
 


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Anyone seen what a new bush looks like, could the old one be cut burnt out and a new one be pushed in place whilst on the car.
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Dont suppose Polybush do these in 2 parts Question Might be worth having a chat with them Thumbs Up
  
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Markmein
 


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Has anyone had any further success with this? I have a collapsed bush on the left outer and the left inner isn't looking great so will have to fix, just wondering if anyone has had a go at this?
  
Post #168526227th Jul 2016 8:24 pm
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Barn1e
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

I recall someone rebuilding the rear propshaft rubber bush with a compound (cant recall name) - any chance that a "good enough" fix could be completed?
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Markmein
 


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I think the propshaft fix is to use a PU sealant adhesive to fill the void around the center bearing carrier, if I can get to the damper it might work but I have a feeling the bloody thing would have to come off to accomplish that.

I can't even find the part number for the damper never mind the bush at the moment though.

Need to try and establish if the body needs to be jacked off the chassis to allow clearance to remove the weight though before I start as it seems to be an escalating job. Big Cry
  
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Looking on Microcat dampers are only available complete £88.82 + vat LR Retail there is not a part number for just the bushes.

LR Part numbers are..

KQD500123 RH
KQD500133 LH
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Post #168530527th Jul 2016 10:15 pm
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Markmein
 


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Great thanks for the part no's, I'll start looking for best price.

Is it necessary to lift the body clear to get the damper out?
  
Post #168531627th Jul 2016 10:33 pm
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kraatzD
 


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I have the same question -

Do you need to lift the body to get them out?

Also - Can I go without them? What will happen?

thanks
  
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Motolab
 


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Second reactIon in this topic answers your first question, unless you cut them..

But they are not there without a purpose, it will become very bumpy and rough

Discussed here on the forum earlyer.... have a search...
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Discoveringcomfort
 


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I used Sikaflex on my prop and worked well but messy, this would probaly work OK here if you held the wieght up in the correct position whilest you glued it. It does take hours to set though so no usijng the car in the meantime.
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If you glue them in position they wont work
  
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