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Martin Krutli
Member Since: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 229
  
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From Martin's lurking partner  We've just returned from 4 weeks travelling in WA - had a wonderful time, which was somewhat marred by the very uncomfortable seat head rests which seem to protrude exessively, forcing one's neck into an uncomfortable position. We purchased a lumbar support from an auto-dealer in Perth, modified it so I was able to sit away from the head rest, and the problem was partially relieved. However, I then didn't have the benefit of the firm seating and was thrown around a bit more than usual when doing some off-road driving. I have to add that my spine anatomy is not the usual as I've had 2 C-spine levels surgically fused. I wonder if I'm the only one to have a problem with the seats, and if not, what sort of solutions people have come up with. When we purchased our Disco, the problem was immediately evident and the dealer mentioned the possibility of having the head rests angled backward, which may be our only option. MY08 TDV6 SE. White/Alpaca. BFG265/65/18 At's
Autologic, Trackside Dual Battery syst., Remote GME UHF, 4X4 Intelligence rear wheel carrier, Boab removable rear drawer system w National Luna fridge, Mitchell Bros hitch.
Rasta Plate. 110L LRA long-range fuel tank.
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 2nd Oct 2008 6:26 am |
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MJC73
Member Since: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 100
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Try leaning the seat back - works for me.
M.
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| 2nd Oct 2008 6:35 am |
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Neil Pettersen
Member Since: 23 Nov 2007
Location: Cutting the grass
Posts: 1254
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For me, the entire seat is the downside of the D3.
Too hard,too narrow,too short a seatbase ....... the centre console should have been ditched.
Most D3 blokes are much bigger than me and they would be more comfortable in larger seating.
Did a return trip to Townsville last week (760km) ...... not a good spine/backside experience,but the
vehicle performed superbly..... wonderful ride quality.
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| 2nd Oct 2008 6:48 am |
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DingMark
Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Perth Oz or Erbil, Iraq
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I had the same issue when driving Gippsland - Perth (contract in Vic ended and moved back home) and wearing bi-focals. Couldn't focus on the speedo (across the Nullabor in the V8 =  ). Once the physio re-attached the neck properly, it was time to modify the headrest. Somewhere on the website there is a thread which tells how to remove the headrests and take the cover off of them (note: HSE has the handles on it which complicates things but persevere). I shaved about 1/2 of the foam off the FRONT of the headrest and put the leather cover back on. Problem solved. The leather covers even "poof" out when not sitting in the seat so no one can tell. When reclining, they just deflate and form much better to my neck. Jim Dowell - D4 HSE TDi, 12,000 hydraulic winch & hidden winch mount, MTRs, TyreDog, Traxide 2 x aux battery system, fixed air compressor, Dolium roof rack, MitchHitch.
RIP 2005 D3 HSE V8 5 seater gold (stolen and torched)
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| 2nd Oct 2008 7:09 am |
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Martin Krutli
Member Since: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 229
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I have the seat raked back as far as I comfortably can - this has limited effect. MY08 TDV6 SE. White/Alpaca. BFG265/65/18 At's
Autologic, Trackside Dual Battery syst., Remote GME UHF, 4X4 Intelligence rear wheel carrier, Boab removable rear drawer system w National Luna fridge, Mitchell Bros hitch.
Rasta Plate. 110L LRA long-range fuel tank.
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| 2nd Oct 2008 7:33 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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Try adjusting the seat height, it moves the seat back slightly as well.  “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 2nd Oct 2008 9:17 am |
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davesimmons
Member Since: 11 Feb 2006
Location: Alberta
Posts: 733
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Hi Martin, I too have had a couple fused (c5,c6) I dont find the seat or head rest a problem, however there is a company near me that will do alterations to motor bike seats and car seats, they sculpture the foam to your shape, I wonder do you have somebody near you who could do the same.  Welcome to the Global Warming Corner.
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| 2nd Oct 2008 9:24 am |
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mobyone
Member Since: 23 Dec 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 394
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Hi Martin,
Drivers head rest re-adjustment was a condition of sale when i purchase the car. They suggested that they moved the rest back approx 5-10mm just by bending the assembly! I was rather sceptical, but upon pick up I did notice a slight change in angle (5mm) further back, so took it for a drive and accepted the deal. Probably only the slightest mod, but with the seat angled back in the irght position, never had a prob since. What's the point.... it all comes out in the wash anyway!
85 Range Rover
01 Disco Series II
05 D3 V6SE, Bonatti Grey, 19"alloys
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| 2nd Oct 2008 2:38 pm |
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wopac5
Member Since: 20 May 2007
Location: Karratha
Posts: 146
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Guys...first a point of order...the items refered to are NOT head rests, but head RESTRAINTs...very important difference. As a restraint, the items are required to restrain the head to limit or prevent a "whip lash" injury. Therefore, the restraints should be set as close as possable to the head to limit rearward movement.
I would hesitate to do, or accept modifications, esspecially "bending" or forcing the assembely.
I agree with others here, that adjusting the seat back will offer the best and safest option.
My wife commented, wheren we first got ours, that when she had her hair bunned up the restraint made the seating uncomfortable, but quickly found that by winding the rest back slightly, all was forgiven. And we have travelled 1600k in a day without any issues.
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| 4th Oct 2008 4:17 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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Aggree with wopac5,
There are many different configurations of the seat and the steering wheel though.
Steering wheel:
Up
Down
In
Out
Seat:
Forward
Back
Up
Down (also moves the seat back and forward along with the seat base around an axis at the front of the seat base)
Seat Back:
Forward
Back
Lumbar support:
In
Out
I would exhaust all possible configurations before modifying anything. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 4th Oct 2008 4:46 am |
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simon_arch1
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 502
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1. suspension lowering from off-road height setting at 40kph instead of eg. 80
2. spare wheel underneath
3. electronic hand brake
4. head rest that doesn't adjust at all...
Issues - in any order you like... but I agree, the lack of head rest adjustment in height, rake etc is very annoying, and I know has seen at least 1 person buy a VW Touraeg instead, just because of the head rest...
I am very fortunate that my height, build etc suits the seats, and I do find the whole setup very comfortable - can drive for hours without any issues, but it would have been such a logical design change...
All the best with a solution.
Simon D3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier  ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
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| 6th Oct 2008 3:37 am |
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PBob
Member Since: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Mudgee NSW
Posts: 167
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Head rests...
what on earth are you all going on about?? (I mustn't have a swelled head)!!  2006 HSE TDV6 Bonatti Grey, ECB bull bar, tropical roof, LG Next G car kit, Tom Tom GPS, UHF, Mitchell Bros tow bar, Kimberley Kamper Limited Edition camper trailer and 23 foot Haines Signature half cabin (Towed separately!)
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| 6th Oct 2008 4:30 am |
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eran48
Member Since: 10 Dec 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 165
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I'm fortunate that the D3 head restraint is just right for me but had the same problem in a previous car.
If you can stand the aesthetics (or lack of ), I found that using one of those foam seat covers with golf ball sized dimples on them to be quite good as they move your entire back about a cm away from the seat back. This provides additional space between the back of your head and the head restraint.
Plus you get a good bum massage from the dimples . But wait, there's more! You also get those magnet thingies built in to magnetize your bum! I think that improves your brain function or colon health. Or are we talking about the same thing here? 
Of course, there is always the classic - plastic beads. These will also move you forward a bit but I find these to be the automotive equivalent to a bed of needles - too painful for my sensitive bum  Also, I don't really appreciate getting a grid of bead marks imprinted on the back of my thighs and bum everytime I get out of the car - not sexy and not cool
Cheers Disco3 SE MY08, Rear lockers, Dual air, Long range tank, Cargo barrier, Rear Wheel carrier, BFG Mud Terrains on steel wheels, Rhino Platform rack, Rhino Aero bars, Traxide/Optima Yellow Top, 'Ever Smiling' TPMS , Rasta Front plate, ECB Nudge Bar, a whole garage full of camping toys....
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| 7th Oct 2008 12:30 am |
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DingMark
Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Perth Oz or Erbil, Iraq
Posts: 388
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I don't think that shaving down the foam of the head RESTRAINT weakens the ability to restrain things. There is still the metal rod in place, which is a lot stronger than all the foam. Okay, I do have an XXL hat size, but shaving the foam allows me to look straight at the road better than reclining the seat (which increases the physiotherapy bills). The exceedingly robust side grap handles on the HSE add even more strength to the head rest. Not that I'm volunteering, but I suspect my XXL would fracture before the restraint does. Also, where I take my D3, a rear-end accident is exceedingly unlikely (roos aren't that fast). Jim Dowell - D4 HSE TDi, 12,000 hydraulic winch & hidden winch mount, MTRs, TyreDog, Traxide 2 x aux battery system, fixed air compressor, Dolium roof rack, MitchHitch.
RIP 2005 D3 HSE V8 5 seater gold (stolen and torched)
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| 7th Oct 2008 8:17 am |
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