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Bodsy
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It'll be the L shaped wedge at the back, if it's not fully home, then the spreader bar will push the shoes out too far. Have found this on a few non genuine shoes and on a set of genuine ones!
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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

Have also found that putting the EPB into the mount position draws the cables as far out as possible, to allow the discs to fit easier Thumbs Up
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Thanks guys!
So, I can't picture the 'L shaped wedge at the back'? Is that part of the mechanism on the back of the primary shoe?
@DM, I didn't stick the EPB into service mode, for some reason it wouldn't set (I did try), would it make any difference to try now that I have it all back together? Presumably not...


**EDIT: I've just taken it out to do the bedding in procedures and it seems fine but I presume I may need to open it up again to put stuff right, or when the 'L wedge' gives then it might go a bit loose and need adjusting?
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apologies but not read all the thread :

ok doing the epb and rear discs on the D3, but never done it on the D4.

whats the procedure for disabling the EPB on the keyless D4 - going to change the discs over the weekend...
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Good question....

If the shoes are not being changed, then you should be able to just leave the EPB off and remove the fuse, same as D3 (I've not checked which fuse number it is though, but probably the same).
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I was thinking of just removing the fuse - hoping the shoes will be ok Confused
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yep, same fuse as on D3 - did them today. Thumbs Up
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Right hand EPB "jamming"

Hi

I have noticed my right hand rear wheel(left hand steering) getting hot and smelling, yes like hot brakes Smile

Took the wheels off and tried adjusting the shoes(i have been doing some off road in mud) but the adjuster fully turned "back" the brake shoes seem to touch the drum. Is it common that the shoes get jammed some how, I mean if they where worn they would not lock the wheel? Any thoughts before biting the bullet and tearing it all apart. I tried doing the beading in process after adjusting just to see if it would sort itself...

Would it be a big risk to drive the car, I have to do a 1200km trip this weekend...'

Any help much appreciated..

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not sure if you guys have seen this but from a US Site Atlantic British for rear brakes
and from Rimmer Bros from the UK (albeit both on a RRS)

Helped me massively in picturing what I was doing.
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Having used Bodsy's excellent Brake Bible to help me replace my rear brakes a couple of weeks ago, I have a question: how long should it have taken me to install the new EPB shoes? I seemed to spend hours trying to lever the second shoe into position once I'd connected the large spring (and yes it was the right way round).

That apart, it was surprisingly easy to do and so far no problems to report.
  
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D3 EPB Shoe Adjust Service Mode Required?

Hello all,

I am new here so hope I have looked in the right places, but I have gone through almost all of the pages in this thread and searched around and can't seem to find the answer to this question:

Does Service Mode need to be activated to adjust the EPB shoes?

The LR Workshop Manual, as well as Haynes, and the http://workshop-manuals.com page seem pretty clear that it does. But Bodsy's Bible doesn't specify this: "If you're removing the disks for a full clean, then I'd recommend putting it into service mode and removing the 30a fuse".....that implies to me that if I'm only adjusting the disks then I needn't put it into service mode? Do I need to put it into Service Mode?

I'm not sure what "Service Mode" actually does. Does it move the cables at all? Or is it a safety?

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I'll be happy to be corrected by those with more knowledge, but I think it just 'locks' the handbrake in the off position so that it can't move and therefore disturb the system while you've got it in bits. I think the EPB needs to be off to adjust it, so using the setting would seem to make sense.
  
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Service position is also known as Mount position, only achievable with a diagnostic tool, or some ingenuity

Essentially, in normal operation, the EPB releases the cables until there is no force felt
If the shoes have worn/seized etc, the cables will not have fully extended

Mount position winds the cables as far out as possible, for easier EPB shoe fitment, and correct adjustment Thumbs Up
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Great, got it, thanks.
  
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