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90 Rangie
Member Since: 17 Dec 2007
Location: Central Queensland
Posts: 121
  
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| Shunt box for LED tail lights |
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How much and where in Australia can I buy a shunt box so that I can tow a van with LED tail lights?
I did hope that LR would have fixed this problem by now as mine is a MY8.5 but when you still need to alter the wiring to the trailer plug you could not expect them to fix the LED problem (and I call this a problem as most new vans are now fitting LED's and they are the way of the future).
I found this probem still exists when picking up my new caravan, had to go and buy and fit some normal tail lights so I could tow home (something not needed at the time) Do not take life too seriously no one gets out alive anyway!
MY 8.5 Izmir Blue HSE Disco 3, ARB Bullbar, IPF HID spot lights, GME TX3440 all in mic UHF, Tripple batteries (2 x Yellow top aux under bonnet), Prodigy brake control, tinted widows, ARB compressor (under bonnet), Prem sound, Prem Nav, Electronic steering column, Adaptive lights, Center fridge, Active diff, Hybrid TV, Side moulds.
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 8th Oct 2008 1:21 am |
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DingMark
Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Perth Oz or Erbil, Iraq
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In one of the other Disco3 threads discussing "LED Lights", there was reference to the following web site for a solution: http://www.labtronx.com.au/page2.html I hope that helps as flashers aren't appreciated by the constabulatory.  Jim Dowell - D4 HSE TDi, 12,000 hydraulic winch & hidden winch mount, MTRs, TyreDog, Traxide 2 x aux battery system, fixed air compressor, Dolium roof rack, MitchHitch.
RIP 2005 D3 HSE V8 5 seater gold (stolen and torched)
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| 8th Oct 2008 4:13 am |
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zebadee
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: The Magic Roundabout
Posts: 1392
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I ordered up a unit from these guys www.linearelectronicdesign.com
Top notch unit & great to deal with 
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| 8th Oct 2008 8:56 am |
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Maddison
Member Since: 21 Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 23
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I had mine fixed by a local auto electrician. He fitted solenoids in the wiring to each tail light. I think the solenoids had a capacitor of some type in them, no more problem. Total cost for memory was $50 or $60. If you need more info I can try and get that for you. Maya Gold June 05 Disco3 HDV6 HSE AT2 Tyres Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch
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| 10th Oct 2008 11:13 am |
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lawrie50
Member Since: 26 Jul 2007
Location: On the road in Australia
Posts: 57
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If you check my gallery you will see the circuit that I came up with. Whatever you do you need to both stop the leds flashing unnecessarily and make the reversing sensor behave when backing with a trailer. My circuit does both and cost less than $30 2007 TDV6 SE Towing 22' Boroma Primo Grandinata, Mitchell Bros. Tow Hitch, Bolle Tint, TomTom GoLive 825 GPS.
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| 11th Oct 2008 10:03 am |
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Aedo
Member Since: 22 Nov 2007
Location: Perth
Posts: 39
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Just a thought - but shouldn't the D3 (and any vehicles with a tow bar) provide a standard output at the socket? And as such isn't it the responsibility of the trailer manufacturer to ensure that the trailer lights are operated by tjhe standard outputs???
Just IMHO of course... 
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| 15th Oct 2008 3:02 am |
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simon_arch1
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 502
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Also - contact led[email protected] - Dave has a blackbox solution - plugs inline b/w trailer wiring and car.
cheers,
Simon D3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier  ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
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| 22nd Oct 2008 4:40 am |
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javaD3
Member Since: 25 Oct 2008
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2
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| LED Module for D3 and trailers. |
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Hi 90 Rangie, I have also done some research on campatabilityof LED trailer lights with my new D3. I ordered a new Camper from Trakmaster and they mentioned I would require an LED module. I checked out some ideas on this forum. I then spoke to my local LR Dealer and they recommended www.linearelectronicdesign.com. I said I required an LED module that will work with our horse float that has a combination of incandescant and LED trailer lights. No problem. I also said I would like a module that would work with our friends Freelander 2. All Ok.
I found the guys at Linear Design very helpful and fast delivery. It was a bit more expensive but was well worth it. All sorted. Gotta love that Java Black.
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| 25th Oct 2008 9:22 am |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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Merged 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 25th Oct 2008 9:36 am |
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wadarryl
Member Since: 13 Jul 2008
Location: Perth W.A.
Posts: 6
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I have to agree with other Forum members regarding the Linear Electronics LED Module.
It works a treat, just plug and play. Very good service and fast postage.
My only dissapointment is that the car needs such an animal just to tow a van/trailer with LEDs!
My fate now rests in the WA Licensing Dept, to get my new Grant Tourer caravan licensed tomorrow so we can give it a try out over the long weekend.
Regards,
WADarryl. 07 TDV6 S Lugano Teal, A Bar, LR Spotties,Cooper Discoverer ATRs, Remap, so far.
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| 22nd Apr 2009 2:49 pm |
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gps-au
Member Since: 14 Apr 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 57
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lawrie50 wrote:If you check my gallery you will see the circuit that I came up with. Whatever you do you need to both stop the leds flashing unnecessarily and make the reversing sensor behave when backing with a trailer. My circuit does both and cost less than $30
Luv'd the circuit Laurie, for anyone building this there are a few mods you might want to try:
1) instead of the load resistors you could use globes.
2) you could also switch the load resistors/globes out of circuit with a dual pole switch if you want to fool the d3 so you can still select off road height with the trailer attached.
Personally I just cant see the price justification of both the "commercial" suppliers except the commercial aspect.
All parts for Lawrie50's solution should be easily obtained from Jaycar except the trailer plugs. A small breadboard would do the job.
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| 23rd Apr 2009 1:48 pm |
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lawrie50
Member Since: 26 Jul 2007
Location: On the road in Australia
Posts: 57
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Quote:2) you could also switch the load resistors/globes out of circuit with a dual pole switch if you want to fool the d3 so you can still select off road height with the trailer attached.
Haven't tried this but when we park up for lunch or when we are setting up the van at a CP I have no problem convincing it to go to off road height. Must try it on the move and see what happens. 2007 TDV6 SE Towing 22' Boroma Primo Grandinata, Mitchell Bros. Tow Hitch, Bolle Tint, TomTom GoLive 825 GPS.
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| 23rd Apr 2009 2:10 pm |
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catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805
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gps-au wrote: so you can still select off road height with the trailer attached.
eh am I misunderstanding the post. you can go into offroad height with a trailer attatched it will just not do it automatically when an appropriate setting (rock crawl) is selected.
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| 23rd Apr 2009 3:00 pm |
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gps-au
Member Since: 14 Apr 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 57
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catweasel wrote:gps-au wrote: so you can still select off road height with the trailer attached.
eh am I misunderstanding the post. you can go into offroad height with a trailer attatched it will just not do it automatically when an appropriate setting (rock crawl) is selected.
To be honest here, I haven't stuck the problem, as I have yet to make the box, (which I plan to in the next week or so). Currently my small trailer has flashing leds.
Which actually brings up a question... how many watt with globes is required (using globes) for the D3 to actually recognise a trailer is attached ?
I am currently thinking of a slightly different position for the box in the left rear quarter panel as a plug in direct to the vehicle harness with a switch in the top plastic or in the access panel itself. Now if I could find a 50A Anderson Plug designed for 90 degree panel mount the white trailer connector could be dispensed with, otherwise I am thinking of modifying it to have its feeds come from the second battery rather than the main and make a double plug loom double socket to trailer connector ( I would prefer to remove the white socket though) pending the suitable anderson approach (maybe just an "L" bracket would do).
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| 23rd Apr 2009 3:54 pm |
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bobzed57
Member Since: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1
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Hi lawrie50
I took delivery of a new D3 last week and will be towing a Kanga camper with LED tail lights.
I've just moved across to LR from owning a VW Touareg and the solution for pulsing was to put a resistor in parallel with all the trailer's LEDs. Worked fine with 6 Ohm, 50 Watt and I figured it would for the D3. I like your solution and will be making one myself as I am reluctant to shell out a few hundred dollars for something that should be simple to achieve.
I've trawled through all the posts on this problem both at this forum and the AULRO forum, and I'm not clear on what the D3 needs to see for a trailer to be detected. What's also not clear to me with your solution is, is there any requirement for shunt resistors on the parkers and brake LEDs? Are only the indicators effected by the pulsing?
Cheers
Bob Z
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