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Bonehead
Member Since: 14 Nov 2010
Location: South Yorks
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Chuff me thats mental .... whatever happened to just lifting the engine out  I started out working on cars at the age of 12 in a mates dads garage and working on the old morris minors was much easier I deviated into the world of very big engines and tree harvesters etc so know nothing about working on modern stuff. I still have bearing scraping tools in my tool box and engineers blue.
How much effort does that take? Isnt that how the dealers do the timing belts too?
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 15th Jan 2011 11:13 pm |
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Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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Engine can be done with the body in place, but ATEOTD, it only takes 3 hours or so to lift the body, and makes the whole job much much easier. Only extra thing you have to do really is bleed the brakes once its back together...
That was how LR said the belts were to be done in the first place, something like 16 hrs to replace both belts, but that was swiftly changed. Rear belt can be done blind, by feel and mirrors. Front belt is relatively easy. I did a basic how-to on the timing belts, so you can see what they are dealing with My D3 Build Thread
TDV8 Retrofit Build Thread
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| 15th Jan 2011 11:52 pm |
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Bonehead
Member Since: 14 Nov 2010
Location: South Yorks
Posts: 137
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I read your how to when I first joined the forum, very informative, thanks.
3 hours to get the body off doesn't sound too bad I guess if you have the lift to do it. Which I don't, I'll just hope I never need to do it
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| 16th Jan 2011 6:42 pm |
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gruodiz
Member Since: 16 Nov 2011
Location: Klaipeda
Posts: 294
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We have the same situation here for 2.7 TDV6 RRS 2006. Everything went much worse than others here I've read. 180 000 km on clock, timing belts not changed at 160 000 km but that's not the reason for what happened. Speeding 160Km/h on highway crankshaft broke in two parts because of that it stopped spinning and stuck though heads was still spinning timing belt. The pulley on oil pump was ripped of with lump of aluminum then left side (looking from back of the car) head cams' chain broke. All four cams was damaged though no touch of valves to pistons. Heads intake manifold/ plastic head cover broke, front timing belt cover broke.
Now we have body lifted, engine off. Bought 2.7 engine block from Peugeot 607 (other Peugeots/ Citroens the same) though exterior of blocks are different in gear box bell and engine mounting places but all needed inner parts are the same. Took crankshaft with bearings from Peugeot block, compared with LR TDV6 and these are identical but at that moment realised that not the crankshaft broke in two parts but the bearing places in the block also damaged.
For now spent for new genuine timing belt kit, head gaskets, plastic covers, oil pump, gasket, seals etc
BTW we went to engine parts specialist and theres no aftermarket bearings, crankshafts are sold for these engine though no parts in their catalogue, they're working at least 15 years for that.
Still in progress
Pics later but that going to be interesting 
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| 3rd Mar 2012 10:24 pm |
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character
Member Since: 01 Jan 2008
Location: wiltshire
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EXACTLY THE SAME AS US - EVEN THE END RESULT, YER NEED TO READ THIS POST FROM THE 1ST PAGE 
Good spot
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| 7th Mar 2012 2:36 am |
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gruodiz
Member Since: 16 Nov 2011
Location: Klaipeda
Posts: 294
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Does anyone know if the TDV6 2.7 engine from Jaguar can be fitted to Land Rover. I know that bottom oil panel is different so it can be swapped. Engine heads, block looks very similar. Does anybody tried this?
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| 17th May 2012 11:12 am |
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igor12
Member Since: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Moscow
Posts: 4
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Hello
I live in Russia.
I have Discovery3
Two weeks ago my car broke down the engine. cranking the crankshaft bearings.
In Russia, this failure often occurs in Discover3.
Mr. Frank Wittemann(Head of Department of Land Rover in Russia) in our correspondence indicated that the cause of failure has been found and corrected specialists. The reason - a manufacturing defect.
He also wrote that if they find that the cause of failure was a manufacturing defect, the company Land Rover engine repair at his own expense.
I want to ask.
How are you doing with this problem?
Eliminates the firm Land Rover in Europe such damage at his own expense?
PS: Sorry for my very bad english.
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| 27th Aug 2012 6:19 pm |
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gruodiz
Member Since: 16 Nov 2011
Location: Klaipeda
Posts: 294
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igor12 wrote:Hello
I live in Russia.
I have Discovery3
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How are you doing with this problem?
Eliminates the firm Land Rover in Europe such damage at his own expense?
PS: Sorry for my very bad english.
How old is your car, what mileage?
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| 27th Aug 2012 7:22 pm |
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igor12
Member Since: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Moscow
Posts: 4
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gruodiz wrote:
How old is your car, what mileage?
2008
118000km
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| 27th Aug 2012 7:37 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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Interesting that LR have aclnowledged the issue. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 27th Aug 2012 10:38 pm |
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D4JWW
Member Since: 20 Oct 2009
Location: London, UK
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Igor your problem sounds similiar to TDV6 failing in South Africa
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic79787.html A few mods... and keeping it all running...Faultmate MSV2
MY09EGR's blanked Thanks Bellautos, BAS
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| 28th Aug 2012 7:43 pm |
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igor12
Member Since: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Moscow
Posts: 4
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In Russia, some people told me that TDV6 engine failure in Europe and is recognized as a manufacturing defect you have it eliminates firm Land Rover at your expense.
Is this true?
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| 29th Aug 2012 8:10 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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Language issue but in rest of world LR do not recognise this as a manufacturing defect and owners have to pay for repairs. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 29th Aug 2012 8:26 am |
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igor12
Member Since: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Moscow
Posts: 4
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Hooray!
Russian division "Jaguar LandRover Russia" has agreed to pay 50% of the cost of repair of the engine of my Discovery3. The warranty period of my car ended May 13, 2011. They asked for documentary proof that I was changing the oil in the engine according to the rules after the warranty period. And a month later the car was repaired. short-block was replaced with a new one.
PS: Diagnosis revealed axial movement of crankshaft.
PSS: Also I know another four cases where the Russian representative "Jaguar landRover" pay 50% of the cost of repair.
Also in our club (www.lr-club.com) is the man who sued and won a settlement agreement on the return value of the car, as well as full reimbursement for legal fees and assessments.
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| 19th Oct 2012 3:18 pm |
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