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twoakers
 


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United Kingdom 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3
Manual gearbox - sloppy lever and not selecting reverse gear

Advice required please. Idea
We have a 2005 (55 plate) Discovery 3 with the 6 speed manual gearbox.
When we bought it last November with 113k on the clock the gear lever seemed a bit sloppy, bit like an old truck!
Now coming up to nearly 115k and it will no longer select REVERSE gear Shocked
It feels like the lever and/or linkages are worn and need some attention.
You can actually feel the reverse gate but the lever slips just the wrong way and.......into first gear.
Has any one else had this problem please?
What is required to fix this problem Question
Managed to fix most things on my old Discovery 1 so now willing to have a go on our 'new' Discovery 3 Smile
 Cheers, Dave in Essex
D3 07 TDV6 HSE
Clubs - Turbo changed, EGR valves replaced, General Grabber ATs, Hawkeye FC reader, Front/rear wishbones, manual gearbox change, autobox flush, cam belt change, HPFP belt change, oil pump change....
Coachman Laser 650/4 caravan
Amateur Radio Callsign - G8PAI
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twoakers
 


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United Kingdom 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

Still need advice please..... Question

Update is that I have pulled it all apart and found that the rubber bushes are worn out and sloppy. Rolling Eyes
To get to the linkages you have to dismantle and remove all the centre console. Not a job for the faint hearted!
There are 2 miniature sealastick type rubber bushes (similar to suspension bushes) on the gear-change linkage. One at the bottom of the gear-lever and one at the end of the horizontal linkage. This horizontal linkage goes forward to the gearbox via a small Universal joint. The rubber bush is in the UJ.
The UJ is held onto the gear selector shaft by a roll pin. This is proving to be a real pain in the a**e to remove. Evil or Very Mad
I don't really want to remove the gearbox. I am saving this pleasure for when the clutch wears out.... Rolling with laughter
NB Any tips or advice on removing a stubborn roll pin with no access from beneath it would be great

While this is going on (struggle with the roll pin) I have ordered from my local supplier (Britcar UK Ltd) a complete gear linkage assembly, a roll pin and a shiny new gear knob.

As this repair is progressing I have taken loads of photographs and may well post them later.
No doubt other owners will come up against this prblem as they clock up the miles Sad [/img]

So far over the past 2 days there have been 60 odd views of my posting
So where are you experts? Question
Can I have some advice, tea and sympathy and even some moral support please? Big Cry

Now off to the workshop for another go at that roll pin.....
 Cheers, Dave in Essex
D3 07 TDV6 HSE
Clubs - Turbo changed, EGR valves replaced, General Grabber ATs, Hawkeye FC reader, Front/rear wishbones, manual gearbox change, autobox flush, cam belt change, HPFP belt change, oil pump change....
Coachman Laser 650/4 caravan
Amateur Radio Callsign - G8PAI
Playing with Big Boys Toys! 
 
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snailcove
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Java BlackDiscovery 3

my disco is a manual and the gearleaver is pritty tight so far ,never been in that far to know what you are looking at,the roll pin wouldn't be tapered and only goes in and out one way -just a thought Confused
  
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Chicken Duck
 


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You got my sympathy,specially if your doing it outdoors Big Cry . Please br sure to post pics. BTW my disco has been hard to get in reverse since it left the showroom.
  
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D4JWW
 


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South Africa 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 GS Manual Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

No expert, lack of response may have to do with exclusive club of manual D3's (dare I say real off road version of D3)... Whistle You have looked at info on here (does cost a bit but worth it I always thought) http://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/topix/vehicle/index Thumbs Up
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twoakers
 


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United Kingdom 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

Thanks for all the advice, suggestions and support so far.....

The roll pin is now out Thumbs Up
I made up an extractor using a long skinny bolt, a ground down nut and spacers.

The new linkage assembly, roll pin and and gear knob have been collected from the parts dealer.
Only to find that it was NOT a complete assembly including the UJ - doh!
That is now on order and due in on Monday Crying or Very sad

While at the parts dealer, a pessimistic 'expert' was saying that the fault was probably inside the gearbox.
Was quoted about £1700 for a replacement gearbox if I need one!!! Big Cry

D4JWW - how much is the subscription to this service? Would this also have Service Bulletins of know problems and their fixes?

Disco Duck - luckily I have nice barn to work inside with an inspection pit 8) Interesting that yours is hard to get in reverse. Hope it doesn't go the same way as mine Rolling Eyes

snailcove - hope yours remains tight mate Wink Nope the roll pin is straight although it is swaged at one end to help get it started.

Now all I need to do is to wait for the new parts.....

Meanwhile any further thoughts and advice would be gratefully received and faithfully applied. Smile[/img]
 Cheers, Dave in Essex
D3 07 TDV6 HSE
Clubs - Turbo changed, EGR valves replaced, General Grabber ATs, Hawkeye FC reader, Front/rear wishbones, manual gearbox change, autobox flush, cam belt change, HPFP belt change, oil pump change....
Coachman Laser 650/4 caravan
Amateur Radio Callsign - G8PAI
Playing with Big Boys Toys! 
 
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pwheeldon
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

Hi I know this is an old post, but I have just bought the same car and ahve the same problem. Any advice help on how to resolve this?
  
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DFZ
 


Member Since: 10 Mar 2021
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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 TDV6 Commercial XS Manual Aintree GreenDiscovery 4

Likewise, I am looking to rectify a sloppy gear stick too. From studying pictures and diagrams from sources all over the web I am putting my money on the nylon pivot bush half way down being worn allowing lateral movement before the selector rod at the bottom. Only thing is I can find the part number for this piece to replace it...
There's lots of nylon gear stick bushes and repair kits on eBay but I'm not sure if it crosses over to any other application.
  
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rrhool
 


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United Kingdom 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Zermatt SilverDiscovery 3

Try searching 'detent spring' or 'detent clip' (as below)

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/sale-detent...ght=detent

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DFZ
 


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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 TDV6 Commercial XS Manual Aintree GreenDiscovery 4

Thank you. Thats all very well if the clip has broken but what if the nylon bush has disintegrated like this one.
https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/fixed-wobbl...57420.html
  
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