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NJSS

Member Since: 06 May 2009
Location: Catherington, Hampshire.
Posts: 10506

2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Landmark LE Auto Waitomo Grey

Thanks Andy - that's very interesting; it's good to hear from someone with actual experience; I hope you will share this with us in more detail.

For those who haven't read it here's a link to Andy's thread on the original breakdown & engine replacement:-

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic83391-45.html

Did they just supply the engine, or supply & fit?

Did you get a detailed invoice from them listing what had been done on the reconditioned engine?

What was the cost, what warranty did they give - was it underwritten by a reputable third party?

Have you read the thread http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic80614.h...balengines - and would you comment on it please?

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Nigel Am I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.

2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
There are 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don’t.

18th May 2013 10:02 am

Randylover

Member Since: 31 Jan 2011
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 1172

2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Zermatt Silver

Hi,
Engine was supply and fit, it took a week to ten days

it was block and heads with my ancillarys re-fitted and new genuine H/D clutch they wouldnt fit an aftermarket one,

The warranty was an unlimited six month guarantee on the block and heads, obviously they would not guarantee my old parts re-fitted
The guarantee was with themselves for a full unlimited mileage of six months as long as the oil was changed after 1000 miles by either themselves or a reputable garage and proof of it was sent to them to secure the full period or guarantee.

The cost was

Â£300 to get it collected from Stoke and transported down to essex (third party)

Then the engine bill was Â£4000 inc new HD clutch complete.

As i have stated before, this choice will not be to every ones liking
But i decided it was a sensible viable option for me given the value of a hight mileage well used D3 against the cost of a new engine.

Regards

Andy 05 TDV6,"S" in all colourcoded Zermatt silver,7 seats winter pack HK 6cd stereo,Dual climate,Xenons,

Mods:
Re-Con Engine,De-Tango,Reverse camera,Fog/DRl lights,Aux Battery, perm Aux socket in boot,LED Volt meters in roof panel,Built in tom tom, Strobes fitted in grille, Aux switches for trailer lights fitted in roof panel,Roof Rails,Grille conversion

18th May 2013 11:27 am

NJSS

Member Since: 06 May 2009
Location: Catherington, Hampshire.
Posts: 10506

Thanks Andy

Â£4k supply & fit including VAT & a new H/D genuine clutch seems pretty reasonable.

Did you consider "extras" like fitting a new (or recon) turbo & EGRs, oil pump etc at the same time?

Regards

Nigel Am I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.

2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
There are 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don’t.

18th May 2013 11:33 am

Randylover

Member Since: 31 Jan 2011
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 1172

Didnt consider it really, two reasons first was, my dad allways said and was usually right "if it aint broke dont fix it"

and secondly it would of only rapidly increased the cost, if the EGR`s go then ill blank em

Andy 05 TDV6,"S" in all colourcoded Zermatt silver,7 seats winter pack HK 6cd stereo,Dual climate,Xenons,

Mods:
Re-Con Engine,De-Tango,Reverse camera,Fog/DRl lights,Aux Battery, perm Aux socket in boot,LED Volt meters in roof panel,Built in tom tom, Strobes fitted in grille, Aux switches for trailer lights fitted in roof panel,Roof Rails,Grille conversion

18th May 2013 11:42 am

Ewt

Member Since: 04 May 2013
Location: West yorks
Posts: 10

2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 XS Manual Java Black

I have just been to the garage that has our car,it is sat there gleaming ,absolutely immaculate ,but effectively an economic write off,IF it requires a new engine.I asked the mechanic (Kevin) what his gut feeling was,he said he thinks it has done the head gasket between two pistons.
So i think we need to spend that money to have that done .If its more serious then we are committed to a new engine,hoping Landrover may contribute something ( not likely).It won't be cost effective to then reassemble the car to transport it to an engine reconditioners .
It's a gamble ,but going to somebody like Global seems to be a gamble also .By nature I am not a gambling man

How about a poll ,we need a laugh
Options
1 E bay spares or repair hoping for Â£7,000
2 investigate resulting in possible new engine cost approx Â£10,000
3 recon engine approx Â£4,000

18th May 2013 1:02 pm

Disco_Mikey

Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20732

2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns Blue

Option 4. 2nd hand, low mile engine, with 3 months warranty. Â£2500 + fitting

My D3 Build Thread

TDV8 Retrofit Build Thread

18th May 2013 2:23 pm

Ewt

Member Since: 04 May 2013
Location: West yorks
Posts: 10

I had dismissed that option because everybody tells me they are as rare as rocking horse

Unless you no different
Stu

18th May 2013 2:28 pm

Down&Dirty

Member Since: 17 Aug 2012
Location: Somewhere out back
Posts: 1287

2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Graphite LE Auto Corris Grey

Option 5. this one on the bay with 6 month warranty

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DISCO...3f24fd3d92 MY24 Defender 90 X-Dynamic HSE
MY18 Disco 5 HSE Santorini Black Now Gone.

18th May 2013 2:28 pm

Ewt

Member Since: 04 May 2013
Location: West yorks
Posts: 10

That might be a option then trade her in ASAP

18th May 2013 2:33 pm

Disco_Mikey

Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20732

Ewt wrote:
I had dismissed that option because everybody tells me they are as rare as rocking horse
Unless you no different
Stu

The place I bought mine from had 4 or 5 low mile engines in stock, all removed from Jag S-Types or Jag XF. Same basic engine

They also had a few high mile engines available, but only Â£1800 My D3 Build Thread

TDV8 Retrofit Build Thread

18th May 2013 2:34 pm

Ewt

Member Since: 04 May 2013
Location: West yorks
Posts: 10

Mikey that's v interesting ,can you be sure they are low mileage .Are they service exchange ,if not our lump will have a certain value I assume.
Could you pm me the contact details please
Stu

18th May 2013 2:41 pm

Disco_Mikey

Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20732

The mileage is warranted. The cars they are breaking can be seen online, and verified.

FWIW, I sold my dead TDV6 for Â£350 (+ courier costs) to a place on Ebay who recondition them, and its not even out of the car yet. Didn't want/ask to hear it or see it running. I assume if it is unrepairable, they will re-use the con rods/pistons/crank etc

Will PM details at some point this weekend

My D3 Build Thread

TDV8 Retrofit Build Thread

18th May 2013 3:33 pm

Ewt

Member Since: 04 May 2013
Location: West yorks
Posts: 10

A quick up date for those interested.The car was transported to a different garage (who has been recommended to us),they have the room and facilities to do an engine swap if required.The chap rang me on Saturday morning saying he had done a compression test and its down on three cylinders and has developed a small oil leak.So the body was coming off to get the heads off.
Land Rover where informed ,they have now said it MAY have to go to a main dealer contrary to what they told us last week.
They were told we are not paying for the car reassembling / transporting to the dealer ,they will be sent all the findings direct.
If an independent garage can carry out service and repairs on a new car without it invalidating the warranty ,then the same garage is capable of telling them the engine they supplied is

Hopefully we will know by the end of the week ,if a new engine is needed its a five day order .
I must thank everybody who took time to post other options for us to consider ,

after a few sleepless nights we decided if needed it will get a new engine.
I will keep you posted
Stu

28th May 2013 10:16 pm

Andrew T

Member Since: 21 Feb 2018
Location: Oxford
Posts: 1

2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Zermatt Silver

Recon 2.7 engine

Hi, I have a seized engine in my 2008 discovery 3 2.7tdi

!! Can anyone recommend a recon company as its all a bit confusing .

22nd Feb 2018 9:12 am

Pete K

Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10371

2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Rimini Red

I think you can get an engine block from LR for around £5000.

All things considered, it probably the sensible option, as at least you know what you will be getting

22nd Feb 2018 1:18 pm

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